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**Ideally would like a tsv as well as a csv download. (support for tsv export format is coming in next release of portal)
**Ideally would like a tsv as well as a csv download. (support for tsv export format is coming in next release of portal)
|valign="top"| K. Seltmann, R. Rabeler, TTD TCN
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One thing we might think of in any attempt to create a national vascular plant portal - how easy is it for the user to acquire data.  I had this idea after conducting a simple search for records of one species in each of four portals: iDigBio, SEINet, CPNWH, and the California Consortium. 
How many clicks/windows does the user have to navigate to get the results?  Ideally it should be minimal. I found in one case (CPNWH: http://www.pnwherbaria.org/data/search.php) it was -  after I entered the name and hit "search", I had label data, a map of georeferenced specimens, and any extant images, even records entered under synonyms.  I could easily examine label data, sometimes including annotations (!), enlarge images, the map, etc.  In other portals, I had to make additional input to get one or more of types of data available. 
The Pacific Northwest portal allows, as one option, grouping records, incl. sorting by collection and number.  I found this quite useful - it's a way to spot specimens that are likely duplicates that may, for various reasons, be filed under different names.  Someone doing monographic work can learn of (or examine if they are imaged) specimens they may not otherwise know about - the commenting/ Filtered Push system where one could send comments to all owners of the duplicates simultaneously would be a wonderful addition to any such portal."
Brent Mishler replied to my original post and pointed out some of the advantages of the data display in the Consortium of California Herbaria (http://ucjeps.berkeley.edu/consortium/) page.
"The table view used by CCH has advantages in that it can be sorted quickly and easily on any column.  CPNWH certainly does have an attractive search return pages -- you are looking at images, label data etc. as soon as you search, but note that's only for the first 50 records, as PNW groups into bins of 50, which need to be clicked open separately to be viewed or searched.  Also, after you've executed your search, it takes three clicks to sort the results (e.g. by Collector #) in CPNWH while it takes only one click in CCH, so I think the CCH setup ends up being more efficient for certain information needs." 
-->  To me, one of the things that iDigBio should be concerned about is having the portal be easily usable.  If we want it to be the "one stop" for biodiversity data, we need to see what users can get from other portals and provide improvements to that level of info.  If it's easier to get the info by using a combination of other sources, folks still might do that.  In the examples I sent along on the screen shots, that's what I am trying to show -  what we present should be at least as good as what you can get elsewhere.  If you compare the results of the "label" view that you get in the iDigBio portal with that in the CPNWH portal, it's clear (at least to me....) that ours is inferior for the reasons that I pointed out.
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